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Recent content by Eugen Pinak

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    Military or history bookshops in Florence or Bologna?

    Anybody knows military or history bookshops in Florence or Bologna?
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    1937 German handbook on Italian army

    Of, course. But that's what I wanted to find - details on pre-1938 organization.
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    Organization of the infantry

    According to the manual it was 3 squads of 13 men each. Plus platoon commander and his orderly. Total 41 men.
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    1937 German handbook on Italian army

    Found it here: http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/ru/nodes/1028#page/1/mode/grid/zoom/1 Some good details on contemporary organization. Unfortunately, it is incomplete.
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    Thank you for clarifying this issue. I wonder, if those books were also official sources of the doctrine and not merely a handbooks to clarify it to the troops?
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    MVSN military organizations (all levels)

    MVSN short story (in Italian): http://www.regioesercito.it/milizia/mvsnstoria.htm Basic MVSN military organization was the infantry battalion. AFAIK, it was never similar to the Army infantry battalion - it was always smaller and lightly armed. ***************************************** 1929...
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    New section or sub-section

    Thank you! Went to post something on Blackshirts :)
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    First - the quote. It's from p.449 of volume 2, tome 1 of "La Storia della dottrina e degli ordinamenti dell’Esercito Italiano". "Il rapporto 2 mitragliatrici leggere — 3 squadre fucilieri si dimostrò inadeguato ed insufficiente, sicché ben presto le mitragliatrici leggere, ferma restando la...
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    I don't understand you. How should I discuss your mention of "Addestrameto..." of 1935? BTW, I've found the mention of this platoon reorganization in French "Annuaire Militare" from July 1934. And if I understood it correctly, it mentions this reorganization as an accomplished fact. "Single...
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    But you himself proved, that it did not :) You see, when I've read official history "La Storia della dottrina e degli ordinamenti dell’Esercito Italiano", I was surprised to find absolutely nothing on the official sources about 1933 reorganization - just a passing mention without even exact date...
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    Organization of the infantry

    On AHF 1943 booklet on Italian squad is posted: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=2176933#p2176933 Squad combat order is made, as if somebody deliberately decided to sabotage any attempt of the squad leader to control LMG fire effectively :(
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    It's easy to increase platoon strength and armament, when organization is not changed much. Italian units were seriously under-strength, so nobody in the regiments (save HQ officers, who made mobilization plans) actually felt it. But when you make serious changes in the organization, everybody...
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    Though the story is still strange. Such change still required changes in the doctrine - yet even Italian official history fails to mention them, though describing other doctrinal documents in great details :\
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    History of the Italian squadra fanteria (Infantry squad)

    I see. So that's the reason I was unable to find anything in 1933 issues of "Rivista Militare"! Unfortunately, it seems, that from 1935 till 1944 "Rivista Militare" stopped to exist. And I was unable to find any other official publications after 1933 :( Had to find some foreign sources, than.
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    US Army Squad

    That's all nice and fine, but my reply was about "teams that could be maneuver separately". To be able to do so, such team at do have: a) designated leader, b) fixed composition and c) doctrinal permission. Those conditions were met by US Army in 1956 squad. From 1942 there was one (LMG) team in...
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