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Awesome, thankyou both!

Googling in Italian gets me somewhere; Found the divisional artillery units here: https://musei-difesa-it.translate.goog/allegati/Convegno%201994%20-%20l%20Italia%20in%20guerra%20il%20quinto%20anno%201944/files/basic-html/page211.html?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc 1st...

So now I find this, which a review of says "and the table of weapons supplied to the various bodies of the Armed Forces of the R.S.I," https://www.amazon.co.uk/forze-armate-della-RSI-1943-1945/dp/8896519659 sounds like what I'm looking for. Any one have any comments on it before I splash out £35...

The Nafziger book cites no specific references other than Records of Headquarters, German Army High Command, National Archives, American Historical Association, Committee for the Study of War Documents, Washington DC, 1960, Microcopy Nos T-78, Rolls 4121, 413, 416, 418 and Nos T-312, Roll 51 but...

Thanks Jeff, I did find the divisions detailed in the Nafziger book on Waffen SS and Other Units book, but how correct it actually is, I wouldn't like to say. The Flames of War wargaming site has some details that contradict Nafziger. Looks like I'll have to splash out on the Crippa books. Mark

The home page is missing for me too, all I get is the attached. Strangely all the forum posts are accessible, and the menu bar still works. Mark

Hi all, am looking for Battalion TOE for RSI infantry regiments down to platoon level. All I have found so far is that they were organised like German battalions, with 3 companies and 1 heavy weapons company, with regimental anti-tank companies using 75/27 M06 in some cases, but I haven't found...

Excellent thankyou, just what I needed, Mark

Hi all, wonder if anyone can help. I know the Italians and Hungarians tested a prototype of the L3/35 tankette with a smoke generator, I think trailer mounted. Has anyone got a photo or drawing of the prototype that they can share?

Does Nafziger provide a TO&E or this written? Does he cite a source? Grazie! Jeff National Archives, Microcopy T-78, Roll 445, Frame 6419402 Mark

According to the Nafziger books, an Artillery Battalion has an HQ Battery that includes a Platoon with a Signals Section, a Calibration Section and a Observation Section, as well as Staff Section and a Reserve Section. In addition the Battery has two Observation Platoons each with a Signals...

http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2019/01/pziv-penetration-trials.html Interestingly, the article states that the British 2pdr in France 1940 was using only APHE, not solid AP. Despite the explosive filler of the APHE, it actually had less penetration than the AP shot. I do know from an Axis...

Yes, although the British 18pdr and French 75mm M1897 did have APHE rounds available, but that's a separate topic. I do accept that the Nafziger material is not 100%, but I do use it as a good starting point. And these OOB in this book are unusual in that it lists differing amounts of weapons...

The Nafziger OOB for Trento on Aug 22nd 1942 on pg.166 of the book lists two battalions attached, quote: (my italics) 254th Artillery Battalion (attached from XXI Corps, sometimes identified as the 354th Artillery Battalion (1st, 2nd, 3rd batteries each 4x 77/28) 355th Artillery Battalion...

"In reading the Finazzer & Riccio quote, nothing states that these gun were provided to the divisions specifically for use as c.c. The quote indicates that the divisions decided to use them in that role of c.c. Do the authors provide a cite for this info (I assume Cappellano)?" The bibliography...

"I looked at all the Nafziger OOBs at CARL and couldn't find one dated Aug 1942. I looked through the Italian officials and couldn't find a Aug 42 OB (the natural place for Nafziger to copy a OOB). I also looked at Niehorster and he doesn't have an Aug 42 OB. " Well this is it, I cannot find it...

A review of a book I've got: http://www.warwheels.net/Review_Book_ItalianArtyKEENAN.html

One source is Italian Army in North Africa, A Poor Fighting Force or Doomed by Circumstance, Walter S Zapotoczny Jr, Fonthill Media Limited, (2018) ISBN 978-1-78155-674-0 which cites Nafziger sourced OOBs for August 1942 showing 102nd Trento with 354th and 355th Battalions each 3 batteries each...

For what it's worth, I have the following penetration values and dates for Italian EP HEAT rounds: 47/32 4cm/90* out to 1300m (from April 1942) 65/17 4cm/90* out to 1500m (from march 1942) 75/18 7cm/90* out to 1000m (from October 1942) 75/27 7cm/90* out to 1000m (from March 1942) 75/34 7cm/90*...

Looking at 1942 OOBs, it seems some of the GAF 77/28 field guns were issued as anti-tank guns to infantry divisions in North Africa. I haven't come across an AP round for this old gun, so did they have to suffer the indignity of only having HE rounds, or was an APHE or HEAT (EP) round issued? Mark