Brigata Corazzata Speciale

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:21 PM by voloire

On december 1940, was created the Brigata Corazzata speciale.
AFAIK, the units that joined the brigata were

I Btg carri M 11/39 (distrutto il 7/2 a Beda Fomm)
III Btg. carri M 13/40 (distrutto il 5/1 a Bardia)
V Btg. carri M 13/40 (distrutto il 7/2 a Beda Fomm)
VI Btg. carri M 13/40 (distrutto il 6/2 a Antelat)
LX carri L 3 ex XX d(istrutto a Bug Bug)
LXI carri L 3 ex XX (distrutto a Bardia 5/1/41 con div Marmarica)
LXII carri L 3 ex XXI
LXIII carri L 3 ex XXI (distrutto 10/12 con div. Cirene)
XXI carri M 13/40 (Ricostituito)
IX carri L 3 (distrutto il 9/12 a Alam el Tummar)
IV Monti L 3
V Venezian L 3 (da div. Pavia)
XXII cp. Bersaglieri Moto (distrutta il 7/2 a Beda Fomm)
2 gruppi artiglieria 100/17-75/27
Sezione 4 Ab40 Bersaglieri (Pai?) ( distrutta il 7/2 a Beda Fomm)

Any additional info?

Posted 23 March 2006 - 09:46 PM by 13emeDBLE

Well Voloire, I don't have the same composition.

The Brigata corazzata speciale (named BABINI, which followed General MIELE) was only constitued by :
- III battalion M13 ;
- V battalion M13
- one battalion of L3 (LX bat.) ;
- one company of motorcycles ;
- one group of artillery from Div Savona (?);
- and sometimes one squadron of Armoured Car (not AB40, but old Fiat tipo Llibia, a local and versatile production).

It was forseen that a battalion of Bersaglieri will join it (perhaps from 10ème Regimento Bers.) but not before its destruction...

The others battalions were attached :
at first, or second Raggrupamento (for most of the L3 and I M11 bat.) or MALETTI Group (for II bat M11 and LXI bat L3) :
for the others, it was planned to developped another armoured Brigade (Group BEGNINI with VI and XXI bat M13 which defend Solluch).

Am I right ?

CM

 

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 07:57 PM by JulioMoc

Sezione 4 Ab40 Bersaglieri (Pai?) ( distrutta il 7/2 a Beda Fomm)

There was any AB.40 in Africa by Beda Fomm battle?? I tought these vehicles (AB.41) only reached Africa in 1942.

Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:06 PM by Bob_Mackenzie

The 4 armoured cars were:

1 Morris rearmed with a BREDA 12.7mm and a Bren Gun
2 Rolls Royce with similar Armament
1 Fiat 15 ter

Per Pgs 86 & 87 Gli Autovehicoli de Combattimento

Cheers

Bob

Posted 08 January 2007 - 03:16 PM by arturolorioli

There were no AB.40 in North Africa at the time of Beda Fomm, neither later except for one single vehicle with the PAI "Romolo Gessi" column. Except for that single vehicle and for perhaps another used as a railway a/c in the Balkans, no AB.40 with the original twin MG armament ever saw active service.

AFAIK, of course.