by Inspecteur Clouzot » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:01 am
When Italy declared war, the French air force was very active and launched a number of raids against Italian targets. Not particularly impressive, of course, the only reason why I call it "aggressive" is because of the parlous state of the French bomber command by that state.
I was wondering if Italian sources provide information about the result of these raids. Here's a list. When there are two figures provided for the number of bombers, the figure in parenthesis corresponds to bombers effectively attacking, the others turning back or not finding the target.
1. Raids from metropolitan France:
12 June (evening): 4(2) LeO 451 attack Novi Ligure airfield.
13/14 June (night): 8(1) Bloch 210 attack Valdo Ligure fuel depot (one aircraft lost on landing)
14 June (evening): 3 LeO 451 attack the Turin Fiat factories (one lost on landing)
15 June: 6(3) Bloch 210 attack Novi Ligure. Only one finds the airfield, another bombs the Savone port, the third a railroad near Varazze (probably empty countryside).
17 June: 10 LeO 451 & Bloch 210 bomb 5 (!) different targets: the Fiat and Aeritalia factories in Turin, the airfield and fuel depot in Coni, as well as Novi-Ligure.
A total of 26 sorties was ordered, 18 aircraft attacked, losing 2 Bloch 210 and 1 LeO 451. The results were probably insignificant but I'd like confirmation.
2. Raids from French North Africa
15 June: 6 Martin 167F (Marylands, in RAF parlance) bomb Tripoli
16 June: 6 Martin 167F bomb the Cagliari seaplane base
19 June: 6 Martin 167F bomb the Zuara airfield (near Tripoli)
22 June: 27(25) DB-7 (A-20's for the USAAF, Boston I's for the RAF) attack various targets in Trapani (port, fuel tanks, barracks). Flak is nonexistant and the handful of defending CR-42's don't come close (probably can't), so the attack is described as going on "exactly by the book" at 3,500m.
23 June(1): 4(3)+1 LeO451 attack Palermo and Massala, one is lost on landing.
23 June(2): 9(3) Martin 167F attack the port of Zuara and claim one freighter and one fuel depot left burning.
23 June(3): 7 DB-7 bomb Palermo
24 June: 3 Martin 167F attack Zuara, 9 DB-7 attack Cagliari.
I would be particularly interested in the results of the Zuara attacks, as well as that of the big attack against Trapani (Sicily).
Thanks in advance
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by Håkan » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:33 am
Hello.
A very interesting post!
I have a slightly different info on the French raids from North Africa…
15 June
Six French Glenn Martin GM 167s of GB I/61 attacked Tripoli harbour causing slight damage (the city was hit by one bomb) and suffering no losses.
16 June
Six Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs of GR I/61 attacked Elmas airbase near Cagliari, Sardinia, in the afternoon. A bomb hit a hangar where seven Z.501s were assembled to change the national insignias. Six aircraft went up in flames: four from the 183a Squadriglia (MM32254, MM32269, MM32282 and MM32197) and two from the 188a Squadriglia (MM35174 and MM35226) while the seventh (MM35271) was heavily damaged. Six personnel and a pilot died and the airbase was heavily damaged.
The 85o Gruppo R.M. of the Regia Aeronautica remained out of action for the duration of the campaign. A S.79 of the 32o Stormo, was surprised on the base and heavily damaged while Sergente Luigi Moretti of the 50a Squadriglia was killed.
19 June
French bombers attacked Zuara and Bir El Bhera without inflicting damage.
Comment: I don’t have numbers or type on this attack.
22 June
French bombers attacked Trapani where military installations didn’t suffer any damage but twenty civilians where killed.
The attack was conducted with 10 and 50 kilos bombs dropped by 27 Martin GM 167F from Groupement no1 (one from the Groupement HQ, six from GB I/62, five from GB II/62, six from GB I/63 and nine from GB II/63) in its first mission after the redeployment to AFN. Italian fighters, identified as CR.42s were seen but were unable to intercept.
Comment: According to my sources it was 27 GM 167Fs not DB-7s. What’s your source?
23 June
The French again bombed Zuara, this time by nine Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs from GB II/62, GB I/63 and GB II/63. No damage was suffered even if the French pilots claimed the destruction of a fuel storage.
In the afternoon Palermo was bombed by four Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs from GB I/62 and three from GB II/62, which killed many civilians.
Italian fighters claimed one of the raiders shot down. The returning French crews didn’t report any presence of Italian fighters but one Glenn crashed before coming back to base and another crash-landed at Canrobert without losses among the crews, reportedly suffering mechanical breakdowns.
Another bombing of Palermo was made by five LeO 451s from GB II/11 at Youks-les-Bains (aircraft no200 commanded by Colonel Chopin, no 201 commanded by Lieutenant Calmel, no 213 commanded by Lieutenant Zimmermann, no 144 commanded by Lieutenant Drougue and no 3005 commanded by Capitaine Bouyer). In fact, only Zimmermann and Calmel hit the intended target; Chopin returned early because of a breakdown, Bouyer attacked Marsala, Drougue’s aircraft, forced to take off late, returned at night and short of fuel; trying to force land on a beach near Cap Bon it exploded, killing the crew.
Comment: Again my sources says different numbers and types.
24 June
The French attacked Cagliari in Sardinia (small damages suffered after a raid by 13 Douglas DB 7s from Groupement no2) and Olivetti Village in Tripolitania (three GM 167Fs from GB II/63). Italian fighters, although scrambled immediately, were unable to intercept.
Comment: According to my sources, more Martins
I would be very interested to hear if you have any additional info on these raids and what sources you’re using.
Best wishes/Håkan
When Italy declared war, the French air force was very active and launched a number of raids against Italian targets. Not particularly impressive, of course, the only reason why I call it "aggressive" is because of the parlous state of the French bomber command by that state.
I was wondering if Italian sources provide information about the result of these raids. Here's a list. When there are two figures provided for the number of bombers, the figure in parenthesis corresponds to bombers effectively attacking, the others turning back or not finding the target.
1. Raids from metropolitan France:
12 June (evening): 4(2) LeO 451 attack Novi Ligure airfield.
13/14 June (night): 8(1) Bloch 210 attack Valdo Ligure fuel depot (one aircraft lost on landing)
14 June (evening): 3 LeO 451 attack the Turin Fiat factories (one lost on landing)
15 June: 6(3) Bloch 210 attack Novi Ligure. Only one finds the airfield, another bombs the Savone port, the third a railroad near Varazze (probably empty countryside).
17 June: 10 LeO 451 & Bloch 210 bomb 5 (!) different targets: the Fiat and Aeritalia factories in Turin, the airfield and fuel depot in Coni, as well as Novi-Ligure.
A total of 26 sorties was ordered, 18 aircraft attacked, losing 2 Bloch 210 and 1 LeO 451. The results were probably insignificant but I'd like confirmation.
2. Raids from French North Africa
15 June: 6 Martin 167F (Marylands, in RAF parlance) bomb Tripoli
16 June: 6 Martin 167F bomb the Cagliari seaplane base
19 June: 6 Martin 167F bomb the Zuara airfield (near Tripoli)
22 June: 27(25) DB-7 (A-20's for the USAAF, Boston I's for the RAF) attack various targets in Trapani (port, fuel tanks, barracks). Flak is nonexistant and the handful of defending CR-42's don't come close (probably can't), so the attack is described as going on "exactly by the book" at 3,500m.
23 June(1): 4(3)+1 LeO451 attack Palermo and Massala, one is lost on landing.
23 June(2): 9(3) Martin 167F attack the port of Zuara and claim one freighter and one fuel depot left burning.
23 June(3): 7 DB-7 bomb Palermo
24 June: 3 Martin 167F attack Zuara, 9 DB-7 attack Cagliari.
I would be particularly interested in the results of the Zuara attacks, as well as that of the big attack against Trapani (Sicily).
Thanks in advance
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by Håkan » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:33 am
Hello.
A very interesting post!
I have a slightly different info on the French raids from North Africa…
15 June
Six French Glenn Martin GM 167s of GB I/61 attacked Tripoli harbour causing slight damage (the city was hit by one bomb) and suffering no losses.
16 June
Six Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs of GR I/61 attacked Elmas airbase near Cagliari, Sardinia, in the afternoon. A bomb hit a hangar where seven Z.501s were assembled to change the national insignias. Six aircraft went up in flames: four from the 183a Squadriglia (MM32254, MM32269, MM32282 and MM32197) and two from the 188a Squadriglia (MM35174 and MM35226) while the seventh (MM35271) was heavily damaged. Six personnel and a pilot died and the airbase was heavily damaged.
The 85o Gruppo R.M. of the Regia Aeronautica remained out of action for the duration of the campaign. A S.79 of the 32o Stormo, was surprised on the base and heavily damaged while Sergente Luigi Moretti of the 50a Squadriglia was killed.
19 June
French bombers attacked Zuara and Bir El Bhera without inflicting damage.
Comment: I don’t have numbers or type on this attack.
22 June
French bombers attacked Trapani where military installations didn’t suffer any damage but twenty civilians where killed.
The attack was conducted with 10 and 50 kilos bombs dropped by 27 Martin GM 167F from Groupement no1 (one from the Groupement HQ, six from GB I/62, five from GB II/62, six from GB I/63 and nine from GB II/63) in its first mission after the redeployment to AFN. Italian fighters, identified as CR.42s were seen but were unable to intercept.
Comment: According to my sources it was 27 GM 167Fs not DB-7s. What’s your source?
23 June
The French again bombed Zuara, this time by nine Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs from GB II/62, GB I/63 and GB II/63. No damage was suffered even if the French pilots claimed the destruction of a fuel storage.
In the afternoon Palermo was bombed by four Glenn-Martin GM 167Fs from GB I/62 and three from GB II/62, which killed many civilians.
Italian fighters claimed one of the raiders shot down. The returning French crews didn’t report any presence of Italian fighters but one Glenn crashed before coming back to base and another crash-landed at Canrobert without losses among the crews, reportedly suffering mechanical breakdowns.
Another bombing of Palermo was made by five LeO 451s from GB II/11 at Youks-les-Bains (aircraft no200 commanded by Colonel Chopin, no 201 commanded by Lieutenant Calmel, no 213 commanded by Lieutenant Zimmermann, no 144 commanded by Lieutenant Drougue and no 3005 commanded by Capitaine Bouyer). In fact, only Zimmermann and Calmel hit the intended target; Chopin returned early because of a breakdown, Bouyer attacked Marsala, Drougue’s aircraft, forced to take off late, returned at night and short of fuel; trying to force land on a beach near Cap Bon it exploded, killing the crew.
Comment: Again my sources says different numbers and types.
24 June
The French attacked Cagliari in Sardinia (small damages suffered after a raid by 13 Douglas DB 7s from Groupement no2) and Olivetti Village in Tripolitania (three GM 167Fs from GB II/63). Italian fighters, although scrambled immediately, were unable to intercept.
Comment: According to my sources, more Martins
I would be very interested to hear if you have any additional info on these raids and what sources you’re using.
Best wishes/Håkan