Explosive filler

[WAKEN]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for the amount of explosive filler the mortar bombs/HE shells fired by the following weapons. Can anyone help?

45mm Brixia mortar
47/32
65/17
75/27
77/28
81/14
100/17
105/28
149/12
149/35
149/40
152/37

Thanks!

 

[David Wormell]

Brixia: .07Kg.
47/32: .15Kg.
65/17: .25Kg.
75/27: .4Kg.
77/28: .7Kg.
81/14: .54Kg.
100/17: 1.3Kg.
105/28: 2.35Kg.
149/12: 5.12Kg.
149/35: 4Kg.
149/40: 4.8Kg.
152/37: 4.68 Kg.

 

[WAKEN]

Wow. Thanks David! I missed a couple:
20/65
90/53
I believe there was 1 artillery group in XXI Corps equipped with 12 120mm coast defence guns, but I do not know which type of 120mm naval guns they had. If you know which type they had and what the explosive filler for the HE shell was that would be great.

Cheers

 

[David Wormell]

20/65: Don't know.
90/53: 1 Kg. (this was the A/A round).
I believe there was 1 artillery group in XXI Corps equipped with 12 120mm coast defence guns: 120mm L/25 perhaps? Various figures from 2.65Kg - 4.27Kg.

Sorry, not so much help this time.

 

[WAKEN]

Thanks very much David. Hopefully the 20/65 filler I'll find...
Once further one please: the MILMART 102/35 in RECAM and Ariete: I assume they had an HE shell as well as AP... do you have the filler for the HE shell?

Cheers,

Neil

 

[David Wormell]

I think they did, but I don't have the figure I'm afraid.

 

[WAKEN]

20/65 explosive filler was 38g according to this: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=20/65 ammunition&f=false

 

[David Wormell]

Those figures all seem very high for a 20mm H.E round, much less a 20mm A/A round. I have a cartridge weight of 135g for a 20mm Breda A/A round.

But I'm not claiming that as gospel, I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again.

 

[WAKEN]

Yes, given that a FlaK 30/38 is 6-7g it does seem to be far too high...

 

[David Wormell]

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David.

 

[WAKEN]

Got this reply from another website: "I don't know about how Italian production might have differed, but since the Breda used the same 20 x 138B ammo as the German 2 cm Flak 30/38 etc I would assume that the HE contents would be comparable"

 

[David Wormell]

It's possible I suppose. First I've heard of it.

 

[Slavomir]

Is this what you are looking for?

from: Dati tecnici sulle artiglierie in servizio, Ministero Della Guerra, 1938

 

[WAKEN]

That's great! Thanks very much