Strange vessel Venchione

[gjs]

Hello,

According to some German KTBs they managed to seize in Greece after the Armistice an Italian vessel Venchione. It was renamed to GP 05 or GP 04. I was not able to figure out any vessel with similar name. I wonder whether it could be Regina Vincitrice later V 198 and AS 83. According to Navi Mercantili Perdute it was lost on the 20.4.45 close to Trieste. The displacement of Regina Vincitrice was 170 tons but in one source I found 270 tons what would be in line with German sources. The name Vincitrice is similar to Venchione and it would be not the first time when Germans made a typing mistake in case of Italian names. I hope there will be somebody on this forum to confirm my theory or clear it up in other way.

Best regards,

Greg

 

[1089maul]

Hi Greg,
Welcome to the forum. I have two books dedicated to the Auxiliary vessels of the Regia Marina. Unfortunately, they do not have an index. I have had a look through and attach the page relating to the Vincitrice. Most of it fits apart from the location depending on your definition of close to Trieste. If I come across anything else I will let you know.
Regards,
Bob

 

[Dili]

Hello Bob, what are those book names?

 

[1089maul]

Hi Dili,
From recolectionary, I got them on Amazon!
Bob

 

[gjs]

Hi Greg,
Welcome to the forum. I have two books dedicated to the Auxiliary vessels of the Regia Marina. Unfortunately, they do not have an index. I have had a look through and attach the page relating to the Vincitrice. Most of it fits apart from the location depending on your definition of close to Trieste. If I come across anything else I will let you know.
Regards,
Bob

Hello,
I think I have an idea how to explain my original question. On the 8th of September 1943 there was a small Italian submarine chaser AS 43 Fedelsono in Lavrion. Maybe it was seized by Germans on the date of Italian Armistice and used by the Küstenschutzflottille Peloponnes. I guess that Germans could easily put wrong the name of this vessel as Vencheono. What do you think about this theory?
Regards,
Greg

 

[1089maul]

Hi Greg.
Give me a couple of days and I will get back to you!
Bob

 

[1089maul]

Hi Greg.
I have now revisited my books re your question. Unfortunately, it gets more complicated! I attach two photos relating to the names of the vessels you have quoted. I am not sure if this going to help your research. In respect of the Germans getting names wrong all I can say is that In respect of larger warships, they were given numbers. Eg TA 106 As opposed to names.
Regards,
Bob