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Organization of the Bersaglieri

jwsleser

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I have not found any source that states a reg. bers. has 45mm Brixia mortars. In fact, the reg. moto also lacks 45mm mortars. If anyone has a reliable source that states otherwise, I need to know what it is. While it is possible the bersaglieri used Birixia in the field (after all anything is possible), I don't believe it was common/wide-spread.

I have collect several new sources over the past 4 years, so it is taking a bit longer to rework the article.
 

jwsleser

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Grazie! I should have figured that our for myself. Brain wasn't working.
 
Hi
Obviously a mistake, I also never found 45 mm Brixia in the formations of bersaglieri if not as a support of circumstance in the absence of another but never as a weapon provided in the formation type...
All the best
Maurizio
 

jwsleser

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I am back. I will take look at this. Likely a brain cramp on my part.
 
Actually, I never had the opportunity to find an Italian TOE for the 47/32 truck company relating to 1940, the only official Toe of that type of unit starts from June 1942 and so it results to me on the basis of a table EMS of the time
Squadra cannoni da 47/32
June 1942
1 Sergente (Sargent)(squad commander)
3 Cannonieri (Gunners)
1 47mm/32 anti-tank gun
6 Serventi al pezzo (Ammunition Suppliers)
1 Autista di camion (Truck Driver)
1 Light Truck
11 men

Plotone cannoni da 47/32
June 1942

Plotone cannoni (Gun Platoons)with:
1 Ufficiale subalterno (Subaltern)(commander)
1 Caporale (Corporal)
1 Staffetta motociclista (Motorcycle Courier)
1 moto singola (solo motorcycle)
2 Squadre cannoni (Gun Squads) each with:
1 Sergente (Sargent)(squad commander)
3 Cannonieri (Gunners)
1 47mm/32 anti-tank gun
6 Serventi al pezzo (Ammunition Suppliers)
1 Autista di camion (Truck Driver)
1 Light Truck
25 men

Compagnia controcarro da 47/32
June 1942

Anti-Tank Company with:
Comando (Command)
1 Capitano (Captain) (commander)
Squadra comando (Command Squad)
1 Sergente (Sergeant)
1 Caporale (Corporal)
2 Staffette motocicliste (Motorcycle Couriers)
2 moto singole (solo motorcycles)
4 serventi (Suppliers)
4 Autisti di camion (Truck Drivers)
3 Light Trucks
1 meccanico (Mechanic)
1 motociclista (Motorcyclist)
1 moto con sidecar (motorcycle with sidecar)
5 sottufficiali per vari impieghi (Privates for various duties)
4 Plotoni cannoni (Gun Platoons), each with:
1 Ufficiale subalterno (Subaltern)(commander)
1 Caporale (Corporal)
1 Staffetta motociclista (Motorcycle Courier)
1 moto singola (solo motorcycle)
2 Squadre cannoni (Gun Squads) each with:
1 Sergente (Sargent)(squad commander)
3 Cannonieri (Gunners)
1 47mm/32 anti-tank gun
6 Serventi al pezzo (Ammunition Suppliers)
1 Autista di camion (Truck Driver)
1 Light Truck
120 men

all the best
Maurizio
 

jwsleser

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Thanks Maurizio. I was getting ready to post.

I don't believe a TO&E for a truck-equipped 47/32 compagnia c.c. existed in 1940. As the 47/32 gun wasn't designed to be towed, all the TO&Es reflect the animal-supported company. Trucks were provided when needed in motorized units, but the TO&E wasn't change to reflect the use of trucks.

Squadra cannoni da 47/32 1940.
1 capo pezzo
5 Cannonieri (Gunners)
5 Serventi al pezzo (Ammunition Suppliers)
9 conducenti (mule handlers)
1 47mm/32 anti-tank gun

Plotoni cannoni da 47/32 1940.
1 Comandante
1 Staffetta e segnalatore
1 Attendente
2 squadra cannoni da 47/32

Compagnia cannoni da 47/32
1 Comandanti
1 aiutante
Comando compagnia (54 men)
4 plotoni cannoni da 47/32

Pista! Jeff
 
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